(CDF) Simon Summers
CDF Security
Founder of S.U.M.S
There's an old Italian saying: you fuck up once, you lose two teeth.
Posts: 1,294
|
Post by (CDF) Simon Summers on Nov 2, 2008 9:44:44 GMT -5
How do I huck up my Xbox 360 to the Internet.
I have wireless lan but it aint registering with my XBOX
|
|
|
Post by Shadow on Nov 2, 2008 10:01:28 GMT -5
OK. Do you have the xbox wireless hook-up that you can buy separate, you have an Ethernet cable, or some other form of hook0-up?
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 2, 2008 11:07:00 GMT -5
Yeah, the XBOX doesn't have an internal wireless card, you have to buy one. Just grab a LAN cable and plug it straight into your router/moderm and it should work right away.
|
|
(CDF) Simon Summers
CDF Security
Founder of S.U.M.S
There's an old Italian saying: you fuck up once, you lose two teeth.
Posts: 1,294
|
Post by (CDF) Simon Summers on Nov 2, 2008 11:26:36 GMT -5
THX.
Damn extras me being the no tech shmuck never realized that.
How much is the bloody wireless card for xbox.
But for now a cable will do
|
|
Skyvia
CDF Security
El's Official Kick-ass Welcomer & Ex-Roster Updater Winner of Helping hands revive contest
The Knight, wielder of the ....... needle O.O
Posts: 1,736
|
Post by Skyvia on Nov 2, 2008 13:00:47 GMT -5
THX. Damn extras me being the no tech shmuck never realized that. How much is the bloody wireless card for xbox. But for now a cable will do Its not really a card more of a wifi-box XD Anyway you are looking at £50-£60 new.
|
|
(CDF) Simon Summers
CDF Security
Founder of S.U.M.S
There's an old Italian saying: you fuck up once, you lose two teeth.
Posts: 1,294
|
Post by (CDF) Simon Summers on Nov 2, 2008 14:15:26 GMT -5
Fuck that Im sticking with a cable
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 2, 2008 15:53:54 GMT -5
Yeah it is quicker and simpler in the long run. I only use wireless for my mobile laptop anyways. Wii and XBOX both wired.
|
|
Mr. Digits
CDF Security
Coup d'etat Leader
Women are like voltron: the more you can hook up, the better it gets.
Posts: 3,321
|
Post by Mr. Digits on Nov 2, 2008 16:28:22 GMT -5
Fuck that Im sticking with a cable My sentiment exactaly. 100 bucks for a wireless card? I can buy a brand spanking new intel a/b/g one for my laptop for 30 bucks, and it is definately better than anything microsoft is making....
|
|
|
Post by [CDF] El Satanno on Nov 3, 2008 4:00:20 GMT -5
Why give people something when you can charge them for it, right? God bless American capitalism.
|
|
Mianthadore
CDF Security
Extraordinaire
Sorry, am I supposed to give a crap? I honestly didn't know...
Posts: 715
|
Post by Mianthadore on Nov 3, 2008 6:07:48 GMT -5
Why give people something when you can charge them for it, right? God bless American capitalism. hey, better than Sony! $100 for a fucking Headphone jack for my psp?!? WTF?
|
|
|
Post by [CGR] TheKnockoff on Nov 3, 2008 13:14:22 GMT -5
Other thing about the 360's wireless card: it doesn't work with WPA2 encryption.
You read that correctly.
|
|
|
Post by [CDF] El Satanno on Nov 4, 2008 7:14:51 GMT -5
hey, better than Sony! $100 for a fucking Headphone jack for my psp?!? WTF? Say what? That's gotta be one of those slim PSPs, as I know mine's got a jack. Whatever the case, the PS3 comes with wireless standard. Bam.
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 4, 2008 21:14:52 GMT -5
hey, better than Sony! $100 for a fucking Headphone jack for my psp?!? WTF? Say what? That's gotta be one of those slim PSPs, as I know mine's got a jack. Whatever the case, the PS3 comes with wireless standard. Bam. For the extra price you have to pay, it damn well should have built in wireless. Even after you have bought a wireless adaptor for your 360 you are still no where near the PS3's cost.
|
|
|
Post by [CDF] El Satanno on Nov 5, 2008 8:17:19 GMT -5
And also nowhere near having half as much HDD space, nor having a Blu-ray player. Never mind that (at an off-hand estimate) more than half the library is shared across the consoles. But I have seen the new front-end they having planned, and if Home doesn't live up to its promises (hell, even if it does) Sony's going to be standing around holding their dicks. Come to think of it, if Home doesn't act as the front-end of the PS3, I doubt I'll ever use it. The new 360 jammie is pretty, it's slick, and it looks like fun to tool around with. I fucking HATE the Cross Media Bar. It was fine for the PSP, but on the PS3, it just sucks. Oh, and here's something to make you laugh. Directly relevant, even! I went down to the local electronics chain to pick up a hub so that I could wire my 360 and my PC, as I don't have a wireless card in my desktop. Gonna wait until I get around to getting a new router for that, but anyway... I get home, tear open the 3-port hub I bought only to realize that I don't have a spare LAN cable. As if that wasn't bad enough, while scouring the house for a cable, guess what I found? A god-damned 5-port hub! So now I've got two hubs, and can't use either one for lack of cable. Ain't that some shit?
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 5, 2008 8:31:32 GMT -5
That is pretty damn ironic and sucky. I am still waiting on my 360 and at this rate C&C3 is going to be delivered before the console. That will annoy me quite a bit considering I ordered it the day after the console from a seperate company.
I have a similar story about getting the wrong router. I got an ASDL one from my Mother and I needed cable and she assured me it was the right router so when I got my internet installed I didn't bother buying myself one because she was bringing her spare one down. What a surprise that was....
|
|
Mr. Digits
CDF Security
Coup d'etat Leader
Women are like voltron: the more you can hook up, the better it gets.
Posts: 3,321
|
Post by Mr. Digits on Nov 5, 2008 10:58:34 GMT -5
Other thing about the 360's wireless card: it doesn't work with WPA2 encryption. You read that correctly. That wouldn't affect my decision to buy one in any case -- I don't use encryption on my wireless. For a number of reasons, but foremost that of legal liability, and the overhead that encryption needs....
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 5, 2008 20:09:02 GMT -5
Other thing about the 360's wireless card: it doesn't work with WPA2 encryption. You read that correctly. That wouldn't affect my decision to buy one in any case -- I don't use encryption on my wireless. For a number of reasons, but foremost that of legal liability, and the overhead that encryption needs.... Didn't we discuss the whole having free wireless makes you responsible for others using your connection law already?
|
|
|
Post by [CGR] TheKnockoff on Nov 5, 2008 20:23:58 GMT -5
Other thing about the 360's wireless card: it doesn't work with WPA2 encryption. You read that correctly. That wouldn't affect my decision to buy one in any case -- I don't use encryption on my wireless. For a number of reasons, but foremost that of legal liability, and the overhead that encryption needs.... Ever heard of wardriving? Enjoy having your home network raped by anyone and everyone. Besides, once bandwidth caps become standard in the US (and it will happen, guys. Hell, it is happening), then the people using your wireless network for whatever they damn well please will start stealing your precious bandwidth, too.
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 5, 2008 20:39:16 GMT -5
I'm with TKO here, for the love of everything holy protect your networks. Not everyone is simply looking for a quick free log in and email check with your network.
|
|
|
Post by [CGR] TheKnockoff on Nov 5, 2008 21:10:56 GMT -5
I'm with TKO here, for the love of everything holy protect your networks. Not everyone is simply looking for a quick free log in and email check with your network. This. I tend to rummage through people's shit for fun, when I get bored.
|
|
Mr. Digits
CDF Security
Coup d'etat Leader
Women are like voltron: the more you can hook up, the better it gets.
Posts: 3,321
|
Post by Mr. Digits on Nov 7, 2008 8:43:57 GMT -5
I'm with TKO here, for the love of everything holy protect your networks. Not everyone is simply looking for a quick free log in and email check with your network. It isn't my fault that I happen to believe in helping my fellow man... Also, it doesn't hurt my position that I've been using my neighbors' bandwidth for years (hell, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW). In all honesty, as long as there is a strong login to the router, and all important machines are on an isolated network, then security is really a non-issue in my book. Also, to correct LEO; having an open wireless network means that I can claim that I didn't have anything to do with traffic on my network -- someone must have been wardriving....
|
|
Jeremy "Scotty" Daniels
CDF Security
OVERLORD OF TIME AND SPACE, MYSTIC NINJA OF THE INTERWEBS, and GENERAL SMART ASS!
Kicking back in the gatehouse.
Posts: 1,807
|
Post by Jeremy "Scotty" Daniels on Nov 7, 2008 16:44:58 GMT -5
Actually 237a, if you do not secure your wireless network, you are liable for what people use your network connection for. However, if they have to bypass any sort of security (even a piddly 8-bit encryption key where the password is "password") then you have a stronger legal case to say "it wasn't my fault!" It's quite similar to how things are with people in the south midwest (Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, etc.) and their houses. If you're not there, but you leave your house unlocked, and they catch illegal immigrants there, you are charged with an illegal immigration deal. However, by installing any sort of lock (even one easily bypassed or broken) and using it, you cannot be charged with anything for other peoples actions. Finally, network security is like any lock in that it tells honest people that you don't want them in there.
|
|
Mr. Digits
CDF Security
Coup d'etat Leader
Women are like voltron: the more you can hook up, the better it gets.
Posts: 3,321
|
Post by Mr. Digits on Nov 7, 2008 17:13:17 GMT -5
Actually 237a, if you do not secure your wireless network, you are liable for what people use your network connection for. However, if they have to bypass any sort of security (even a piddly 8-bit encryption key where the password is "password") then you have a stronger legal case to say "it wasn't my fault!" It's quite similar to how things are with people in the south midwest (Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, etc.) and their houses. If you're not there, but you leave your house unlocked, and they catch illegal immigrants there, you are charged with an illegal immigration deal. However, by installing any sort of lock (even one easily bypassed or broken) and using it, you cannot be charged with anything for other peoples actions. The issue is that any lock that can be easily bypassed (as all current "security protocols" for wireless Ethernet can) can be bypassed in such a way as to be indistinguishable from truly kosher access; If you have a lock on the entry to a building that can can easily be picked and then re-locked from the inside, who is to say whether people inside are truly there without your permission? The same logic applies to wireless Ethernet; If you have it secured, then the presumption that any court will make is that only those you directly approve of will be able to gain access. If however, the network is NOT secured, then *anyone* can have access, and then *anyone* could have been responsible for *any* traffic across your local network. Thus it gives "reasonable doubt" that YOU (as the name on the account) are responsible for any particular bit. Finally, network security is like any lock in that it tells honest people that you don't want them in there. Who says I don't want other people to use my network? I thought I expressed the converse quite clearly in my earlier posts.....
|
|
|
Post by [CGR] TheKnockoff on Nov 7, 2008 17:22:07 GMT -5
Have fun explaining that in court, where they will hold you liable for any of the shit that is done on your network.
(This is why I do the illegal shit on the computer-illiterate neighbor's unprotected wireless network.)
|
|
[CDF] LeoMike
CDF Security
The CDF's Hobo Extraordinaire!
CDF Forever
Posts: 4,164
UD Main: Leo Tanner
UD Alt: Leo Mike
Steam ID: LeoNeoMike
|
Post by [CDF] LeoMike on Nov 8, 2008 7:28:16 GMT -5
I'm with TKO here, for the love of everything holy protect your networks. Not everyone is simply looking for a quick free log in and email check with your network. It isn't my fault that I happen to believe in helping my fellow man... Also, it doesn't hurt my position that I've been using my neighbors' bandwidth for years (hell, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW). In all honesty, as long as there is a strong login to the router, and all important machines are on an isolated network, then security is really a non-issue in my book. Also, to correct LEO; having an open wireless network means that I can claim that I didn't have anything to do with traffic on my network -- someone must have been wardriving.... Yes I am sure you can claim that, but can you honestly say that once you have "cleared" your name there wouldn't be rumors flying around? Every person I have ever seen on the news who has been accused of viewing illegal material whether innocent or guilty has had to live with a shadow of their heads. The same goes for rap e etc...
|
|
Mr. Digits
CDF Security
Coup d'etat Leader
Women are like voltron: the more you can hook up, the better it gets.
Posts: 3,321
|
Post by Mr. Digits on Nov 8, 2008 13:36:46 GMT -5
It isn't my fault that I happen to believe in helping my fellow man... Also, it doesn't hurt my position that I've been using my neighbors' bandwidth for years (hell, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW). In all honesty, as long as there is a strong login to the router, and all important machines are on an isolated network, then security is really a non-issue in my book. Also, to correct LEO; having an open wireless network means that I can claim that I didn't have anything to do with traffic on my network -- someone must have been wardriving.... Yes I am sure you can claim that, but can you honestly say that once you have "cleared" your name there wouldn't be rumors flying around? Every person I have ever seen on the news who has been accused of viewing illegal material whether innocent or guilty has had to live with a shadow of their heads. The same goes for rap e etc... You mean like those poor lacross players? As I said, should there be questions as to who did what on my network, I find it safer to have a redily avaliable aliby; namely that it wasn't me. We'll see how well it works when they come banging on my door. Until then, I will enjoy my wireless without the burdensome hassle of encryption.
|
|
|
Post by [CGR] TheKnockoff on Nov 8, 2008 15:47:13 GMT -5
burdensome hassle of encryption. I don't understand this. What burdensome hassle? Setting up a WPA2-encrypted password? Or typing it in one time, then letting your computer access it automatically after that?
|
|
|
Post by [CDF] El Satanno on Nov 9, 2008 12:21:21 GMT -5
Soooooooooooooooooo anyway...
I managed to get my shit squared with my 360, as Leo and others can attest. I'm playing Lost Odyssey now so if you see me online, drop a line or have a chat. Speaking of which...Simon, have we got your gamertag?
|
|
Mr. Digits
CDF Security
Coup d'etat Leader
Women are like voltron: the more you can hook up, the better it gets.
Posts: 3,321
|
Post by Mr. Digits on Nov 9, 2008 19:03:30 GMT -5
I don't understand this. What burdensome hassle? It is a burden not only to set it up (depending on the router, it can be a real bitch to get working; once you get it up, not so much, but getting it there can be a PITA), but constantly with the overhead. Low latency. No running wires. Data security (for wired, anyway). Pick two. I choose the first two, you apparently don't, not that there's anything wrong with that. Not at all.
|
|
|
Post by [CGR] TheKnockoff on Nov 9, 2008 19:38:50 GMT -5
The latency jump really wasn't enough to justify not securing it.
As for running wires, I'm not sure if I understand that at all.
|
|